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Post by John.Allen on Sept 1, 2017 11:14:15 GMT -8
Proposal for Brief SUARV Trial (by Jon.K) Name: STE 1 (Suarv Trial Event 1) What it is: Informal practice trial using the Suarv approach. The guiding methodological principle of SUARV: Reduce all “feedback loops”, “noise”. That is, simplify and set apart people and procedures. Hence there is only one target and the series is kept confidential by the participants with no discussion or posting online about it during any SUARV trial. Affirmations: Optional for this trial and left up to each participant. Cooldown: Optional for this trial and left up to each participant. Target type: There is one target. This is the emotional state of a person or group associated with a sporting or other event with a definite outcome, and at a definite time in the future. Viewers: 4 (or more) of viewers, each of whom will be given the same TRN (Target Reference Number, e.g. 3826 4419). Coordinator: Jon K Session: After receiving the TRN, viewer does a session. This may be long or short and any method. Either send the session to me (preferable) or indicate to me whether the dominant emotion is positive or negative. Don’t send the session to other participants so we can get each individual’s own “take” on the event. Sessions should be saved in pdf format. (You can use CamScanner, a free cell phone app or otherwise scan the session.) Betting or other investment: None for this practice event. Feedback: After the event, I will provide feedback – what the target was and the outcome of the event. Discussion: We can then discuss this trial event among themselves and exchange sessions (up to each participant). Concluding comments: After everything is completed, including a second event if we want to do one, then it is okay for discussion to take place in the APP Forum or elsewhere online. This is to maintain the principle of “Reduce all feedback loops!” Of course by going online one is still introducing possible feedback loops, even after the event has occurred, but if Suarv is to be used more, some discussion of it online needs to take place! **** Note that one can also do a SUARV series with just one photograph, rather than emotions. I’ve described that in the video, and elsewhere. www.youtube.com/watch?v=guvFAKwoHCEI have other documents including a longer, more complete Protocol document which I will make them available if someone wants to start a group and do a series using SUARV. |
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Post by John.Allen on Sept 1, 2017 11:15:32 GMT -8
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Post by Jon K on Sept 21, 2017 10:19:00 GMT -8
The two events scheduled in the above SUARV trial have been completed. (See the first post in this thread for the protocol.) One was quite successful, with all four viewers in synch on the winner (!) while the other event using a different form of SUARV resulted in a pass.
This completes the two events and there is definite interest in doing more SUARV events. If after reading this you’d like to take part as a viewer (or coordinator), please email or message Alexis:
foundalexispoquiz@hotmail.com (omit the first 5 letters)
I have other projects ongoing and can’t undertake to facilitate a group at this time, so if you'd like to facilitate/coordinate (or view) for the group, let Alexis know.
This is the somewhat edited feedback I gave to the four viewers. (I will post graphics in another post if they are small enough - 1MB limit.)
First event: STE 1: TRN: 3558 2462
(The above TRN (Target Reference Number) is all that was given to the viewers about the event. The cue below is something I wrote up before the game but they were not aware of it till feedback was provided after the game.)
Cue: Focus on Quarterback Tom Brady of the New England Patriots at the moment of his greatest emotion about the outcome of the Patriots’ NFL game with the Kansas City Chiefs on Thursday, September 7, 2017, as the game ends.
For anyone who doesn’t follow American football: The NE Patriots were last year’s Superbowl champs and were favored in this Thursday Night game, and they were the home team. The Money Line odds (that is, the team to win) were -9 for the Patriots to win. Meaning they would win by a touchdown (7 points) plus 2 more points. So if Kansas City won, it would be an upset. And it was. KC won 42 to 27.
Odds are often closer than that (e.g. -3), but I wanted to choose a game with a numinous figure, in this case, Tom Brady – numinous meaning that he might stand out in psychic space. He is quite passionate about every game and is very famous. So I chose this game even though it wasn’t as close to a 50-50 proposition as most games I’ve chosen in Suarv.
Some of the data and my evaluation:
Viewer 1: “I can’t believe we ing lost! We were supposed to win.” AI: An upset. AOL AI: Favored team loses.” Drawing of guy with curly hair. (JK: I don’t know who that is. Brady has short hair. The coach does not have hair like this either.) Also has a female “who worked for brother/husband/boyfriend”: “Oh no here goes another loss!”. (JK: perhaps Brady’s wife?) Session has a sense of baseball rather than football. Viewer A moved to another person at end of game and that person and son are happy. Also has a drawing of a celebrating man. Has another guy who says “SHIZ!” So a variety of impressions, but the ones at the end are clear about an upset.
Viewer 2: “Strong feeling of sadness”. Points to a NE loss.
Viewer 3: Man in white cap, white shirt and black trousers. At a table. Seems upset. And above that: “Depressed”. Points to a NE loss.
Viewer 4: Football. Red. (JK: KC wears red uniforms.) “Oh well. Next time. No big deal. Did well. Performance. Needs tweaking. Hanging head low. Frustration. Off game. Got 2 scenes, participants and observers. Feel indifferent like outcome doesn’t matter.”
Tabulation: Using subjective categories of strong – moderate – weak
Viewer 1: Overall, moderate for a NE loss (given the indications of happy in parts of the session but Viewer 1 is “sampling” several different people)
Viewer 2: I don’t know your work but only indication is for a NE loss.
Viewer 3: The same. Only indication is for a NE loss.
Viewer 4: Moderate/strong for a NE loss. Has football and color red. Does not sense strong emotions but only indication is for a NE loss. It would be like Brady to shake off the loss and be ready to move on.
I did not bet but if I had, the indications favor picking the upset, for KC to win and NE to lose. Well done, folks!
STE2 was an MLB game.
For this event we used a single photograph which I associated with a certain team winning an MLB (Major League Baseball) game. If the sessions were scored (by me) at over 3.5 on the SRI scale, I would make a prediction. If that team won, then the viewers would be shown the photo. If not, there would be no feedback for the viewers. This method is used to attempt to avoid displacement to a second photo which happens often in binary ARV.
The scores for the two sessions did not exceed 3.5 so I passed. As it turned out the team lost, so there was no feedback. (Which, naturally, is not a turn on for the viewers.)
As a side but important point: It’s notable that one of the viewers said she knew that the designated team would lose (although she didn’t know the game or the team). The reason is that her session for this event matched the target for a different event outside the group. In short, she had displacement to that other event unrelated entirely to the SUARV group.
It appears then that there are at least three kinds of displacement:
One: Displacement in time. You provide the correct impressions for an event which occurs in the future of the series. (The data for a Monday event matches what happens Friday rather than Monday.) This form of displacement is real for sure – it was observed by researchers Whately Carrington and J.B. Rhine and by Ingo Swann. But it has been little studied and is seldom addressed or commented on.
A second kind of displacement occurs when you get the target (photo) that does not actualize or your session contains data from both photos for a given event. This form is quite common and has been extensively discussed by ARVers.
Third kind: the above example could be thought of as Task or Project Displacement in that the viewer apparently went to an entirely different ‘project’.
Back to STE: In sum for these two events, the event where emotions were focused on turned out quite well. It was an upset yet all four viewers agreed on the correct team, which would have paid more if it had been bet. The other event, using a single photo, was a pass. There is some interest in doing more single-photo SUARV events but there is more interest in SUARV-E (using emotions).
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Post by David Monger on Sept 27, 2017 21:12:20 GMT -8
Hello. I'm a new member here and am scanning around on all the good things going on this site. I enjoy watching and reading everyone's passion on viewing.
I would like to point something out that might be of interest. I've noticed that there hasn't been any study, project, or data logs done on, that I've seen so far, where viewers were rated, or set-up, on their thinking/learning abilities. I wanted to point out ... that there are 3 types of primary learners: visual, audio, and feelers. I think this is at an approximate rate of 60-20-20. Projects would be set up based on the viewers' primary learning/thinking ability. I would assume that visuals would do better describing/writing what they SEE. Feelers & empaths would be good at the identifying emotion of the picture from the way they FEEL. Would audio learners be better focusing on identifying if the picture represented loud noise (football game picture) or quiet atmosphere (library picture)?
I'm just throwing that out as this might be a possibility of increasing the chances of success. It seems logical, but then again, our higher selves don't always agree with known logic.
I apologize for being out of my league in saying such, but I'm just here trying to help out when I can.
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Post by Jon K on Sept 27, 2017 21:43:32 GMT -8
Hello David,
Your observations and suggestions are quite relevant.
First, we lack a typology of viewers. I've been raising this point for more than a decade, and it's clear that it's not easy to compile one. Active remote viewers and ARVers are too busy with their work and projects to undertake genuine research on this. It would seem this is something that parapsych researchers could/would attempt, but AFAIK there haven't been such efforts. It would require a massive effort.
From what I've seen, discussion of "viewer types" keeps it pretty simple. In TransDimensional Systems (14 years ago), viewers were described as "low level"/physical or conceptual. Pru Calabrese posited more categories but never published her set of them. Lyn Buchanan and his students database their work and so know what kinds of data a given viewer is good at or not so good at; however, I have never heard tell of a typology of viewers coming out of that work.
It stands to reason that different viewers will have different skills - you mention visual, audio and feelers as three types of learners. It may be that the same applies to remote viewing. Or perhaps there are other categories as well (e.g. "conceptual" viewers). With such a typology one could, as you note, tailor taskings and work for specific fields and clients. Also, it could be that the types of learners do not correspond exactly with types of viewers.
I would say that very good viewers who are good with emotions know it - and so are good at something like SUARV-E (emotions) or those facets of a project that involve the emotions of people in it. So we have that rough category to work with.
It may also be the case that viewers evolve over time; they may work on weak areas and improve.
Back in TDS days I was considered a "conceptual viewer" but my other main strength was (nonartistic) sketches. Is there a category of such viewers?
It's possible that a person may be primarily a visual learner, as you say, yet that may not translate into the viewer producing useful sketches as their main strength.
What about symbolic viewers, viewers whose primary strength is symbolic or metaphorical data? Are there even any such viewers?
There is a lot to explore here.
Do you have any references on types of learners?
Thanks for posting on this.
Jon K
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Post by David M on Sept 27, 2017 22:11:44 GMT -8
Hey Jon, That makes sense due to lack of sheer mass of numbers to come up with real useable data. As for types of learners ... there are generally 3. Correction is to that of feelers. The 3 primary types are visuals (symbolics and read-writers), audios, and KINESTHETICS (proper). The kinesthetics are the feelers ... 'hands-on'. If you want to throw in a 4th, they are the 'read-write' types that are an offshoot of visuals. Personally, I'm a visual-symbolic. This is openly accepted with a lot of institutions of thought including NLP. Its based off the VARK model. www.vark-learn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Educational-Developments.pdfen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Fleming |
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Post by David M on Sept 27, 2017 23:01:07 GMT -8
Yeah, you are right .. when people know something intuitively .. it's a gut feeling. They can 'feel in their bones'. We all have it, and everybody has their strengths. And don't get me wrong, I'm not taking away from where viewers might want to practice with groups to focus on emotion instead of visual, etc. But when there's money and risk to be had ... I, personally, would rather be doing a pro-visual project, since I'm a visual learner. I would feel more comfortable managing a SUARV-e, for example, with nothing but proven empaths in predicting FOREX movements with our retirement on the line I don't think that would be an increased risk in having such viewers on a SUARV-e. This is coming from my gut feeling. Ha.
I've recently been certified as an NLP practitioner, and from what I've learned is that, yes, we can evolve in our learning styles/modes of thinking over time, but I've come to learn is that our primary and secondary, I forgot to mention that we have a secondary mode as well per VARK model, will always stay the same in ranking (per NLP) ... just like introverts and extroverts. After time, an introvert can learn to be more outgoing, but still will always feel more comfortable at home than in a crowd. I'm a visual-symbolic/kinesthetic. My secondary is definitely kinesthetic. I do have panic attacks when something is very bad about to happen or happening which is tied to me in some way. I usually find out the cause of my panic attacks eventually. Anxiety attacks occur with known fear or anxiety building up when something knowingly is about to happen. The thing is .. panic attacks occur randomly out of the blue. There's no explanation. It's unprovoked (per psychology)... or, really, it's our inner-self screaming something is very wrong going on ... unknowingly to our ignorant ego.
And to close, I barely know any songs or nursery rhymes completely by heart. Yes, I'm not an audio. Boy ... did I go off on a tangent. Ha.
Yes, indeed, there's a lot to explore, Jon.
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Post by Jon K on Sept 28, 2017 7:44:02 GMT -8
Have transferred posts by David and me to General Discussion.
Let's continue the discussion there.
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