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Post by Chakra on Sept 1, 2017 16:28:09 GMT -8
Sorry if I am repeating a conversation already in the works via email.
But I would like to pose the question in case this has not come up as yet - is the Mandala Effect - effecting your outcomes?
I have had some very profound personal M.E. occurrences (though not specifically related to RV) that is causing me to question any real validity of a lot of my day to day 'reality'. (used in the loosest of terms)
Wondering if anyone else is thinking about this, related to your ARV results or you don't care? It is what it is regardless of what time line you just woke up on.
Cheers
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Post by Marty on Sept 2, 2017 6:12:57 GMT -8
The Mandela Effect refers to a phenomenon in which a large number of people share "false" memories of past events. Some have speculated that the memories are caused by parallel universes spilling into our own, while others explain the phenomenon as a failure of collective memory. Origin In 2010, blogger Fiona Broome coined the term “Mandela Effect” to describe a collective false memory she discovered at the Dragon Con convention, where many others believed that former South African President Nelson Mandela died during his imprisonment in the 1980s. That year, Broome launched the site MandelaEffect.com to document various examples of the phenomenon.
My personal take on this is a bit unusual - I believe it does not matter and trying to intellectually "explain it" is not very productive after the first few conversations. What matters is to pay attention to your personal consciousness, which you know is real in each now moment. Build up your communication channel with your now consciousness and the deeper reality of the UCC (Universe of Collective Consciousness). The idea of multiple universes is in the UCC, but that model of the physical universe makes no sense to me because it is irrelevant to the series of now moments we each experience in our physical life...and there is only one life-series for each of us in this life. Sorry if my views here are so theoretical, but that is how I feel about the many topics like this one.
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Post by Chakra on Sept 3, 2017 15:06:55 GMT -8
The Mandela Effect refers to a phenomenon in which a large number of people share "false" memories of past events. Some have speculated that the memories are caused by parallel universes spilling into our own, while others explain the phenomenon as a failure of collective memory. Origin In 2010, blogger Fiona Broome coined the term “Mandela Effect” to describe a collective false memory she discovered at the Dragon Con convention, where many others believed that former South African President Nelson Mandela died during his imprisonment in the 1980s. That year, Broome launched the site MandelaEffect.com to document various examples of the phenomenon. My personal take on this is a bit unusual - I believe it does not matter and trying to intellectually "explain it" is not very productive after the first few conversations. What matters is to pay attention to your personal consciousness, which you know is real in each now moment. Build up your communication channel with your now consciousness and the deeper reality of the UCC (Universe of Collective Consciousness). The idea of multiple universes is in the UCC, but that model of the physical universe makes no sense to me because it is irrelevant to the series of now moments we each experience in our physical life...and there is only one life-series for each of us in this life. Sorry if my views here are so theoretical, but that is how I feel about the many topics like this one. Hi Marty Thanks for your input - I guess the most simplistic retort here is 'seeing is believing'. At first it never really mattered to me either way, the possibility of living multiple life times simultaneously that is, I have felt that was happening in the 'dream world' anyway, for some time now. But it was there - not here - if you get my drift. Now it has moved over to this side of my reality. I understand the concept of 'the others' wanting to dismiss it all by the use of the terms like 'false' memory but to me that is a concept for the deniers, for those that basically the idea of traveling multiple timelines just really freaks them out and its to much to deal with. In that it rather drastically removes all illusion of belief that one has any control of ones existence, right out the window. lol The argument that most don't bring up is about the creation and function of a logo. But if you talk to a person in Marketing (I did ) one knows that for a logo to become a 'false' memory would throw out the purpose for having logo's in the first place. There is a whole science behind the reasoning for any corporation to spend millions of dollars in to create a logo / brand. And the idea of people ever having a false memory of it, is definitely one that would not be permitted. Its creation is built around the idea that it is registered (permanently?) in the psyche / subconscious. For those with a strong visual memory I would hypothesize that for those it goes beyond just logo's. Especially if it was just a current event. The other idea that it is a false memory of possibly 10's of thousands of people just boggles the imagination. It would imply that the logo of that time line was also falsely created. I understand how the media et al tries to create a memory to be perceived a certain way - like 9/11 and we discover that was false - but that's not the same thing. Being conditioned to remember a logo - then being told that that memory was wrong is (IMO) more likely coming from people that never experienced that form of logo in the first place. Thus both memories are correct. Possibly implying that some people are actually moving through timelines at different rates than others. I hope others might throw in their 2 cents worth as well. The conversation of the ethics around quantum computers (D-wave) and them tapping into the resources of other universes is also an interesting one. This fellow covers it all pretty well.
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Post by rid on Sept 3, 2017 16:31:35 GMT -8
Having done a session on this topic and seen others, looks like there is a chance that one of the causes for this phenomenon may also effect RV. Beings, spiritual and otherwise, have something to do with it. Sorry if I am repeating a conversation already in the works via email. But I would like to pose the question in case this has not come up as yet - is the Mandala Effect - effecting your outcomes? I have had some very profound personal M.E. occurrences (though not specifically related to RV) that is causing me to question any real validity of a lot of my day to day 'reality'. (used in the loosest of terms) Wondering if anyone else is thinking about this, related to your ARV results or you don't care? It is what it is regardless of what time line you just woke up on. Cheers
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Post by Chakra on Sept 3, 2017 22:47:27 GMT -8
Having done a session on this topic and seen others, looks like there is a chance that one of the causes for this phenomenon may also effect RV. Beings, spiritual and otherwise, have something to do with it. Sorry if I am repeating a conversation already in the works via email. But I would like to pose the question in case this has not come up as yet - is the Mandala Effect - effecting your outcomes? I have had some very profound personal M.E. occurrences (though not specifically related to RV) that is causing me to question any real validity of a lot of my day to day 'reality'. (used in the loosest of terms) Wondering if anyone else is thinking about this, related to your ARV results or you don't care? It is what it is regardless of what time line you just woke up on. Cheers That is very interesting would you be able to elaborate on the session your referring too? My overall impression of the experience is that it nothing really more than a shift of frequency. IMO - multiple universes are like when you have two mirrors, one is but a reflection of the one before. This is a picture I took of a display in the Palm Springs Museum. Thought it was a perfect representation of multiple universes - what is also interesting is the illusion of the circular effect. Implying that it could also be within a torus or spiral.
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Post by rid on Sept 5, 2017 7:43:56 GMT -8
I have seen sessions done by other people where this Mandala effect was the focus of tasking. to my recollection at least two sessions by independent blind viewers depicted a non-physical being manipulating a human. My interpretation of these sessions is that some aspect of the Mandala effect is just that. My own session also had the theme of energetic influence where a person was being overwhelmed by an energy that was protecting something else. So is it multiple universes? not so sure. Having done a session on this topic and seen others, looks like there is a chance that one of the causes for this phenomenon may also effect RV. Beings, spiritual and otherwise, have something to do with it. That is very interesting would you be able to elaborate on the session your referring too? My overall impression of the experience is that it nothing really more than a shift of frequency. IMO - multiple universes are like when you have two mirrors, one is but a reflection of the one before. This is a picture I took of a display in the Palm Springs Museum. Thought it was a perfect representation of multiple universes - what is also interesting is the illusion of the circular effect. Implying that it could also be within a torus or spiral.
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Post by Chakra on Sept 8, 2017 12:00:10 GMT -8
I have seen sessions done by other people where this Mandala effect was the focus of tasking. to my recollection at least two sessions by independent blind viewers depicted a non-physical being manipulating a human. My interpretation of these sessions is that some aspect of the Mandala effect is just that. My own session also had the theme of energetic influence where a person was being overwhelmed by an energy that was protecting something else. So is it multiple universes? not so sure. So the manipulation aspect of one person is an interesting take on it, though generally speaking it would seem pointless and petty, of course there is no shortage of this level of 'stupid' physical and non... lol There is also the option that those that were doing the remote viewing were/could also being manipulated by non-physical entities. Unless one does a very specific clearing of that on multiple levels one can easily get caught up in an illusion as well or in other words 'castle building'. Which I believe can come from multiple sources and not just ones conscious mind. Peoples baggage is sometimes not their own I have since discovered. I like your take on it though. That to me makes more sense. My personal instances I feel where just something left over from a bigger event. In my case there were two very surprising instances where what was once there was now not and I am not talking about missing keys or socks. The first was a large bank of smart meters which we had checked the location of before we moved in. The placement of the S.M. was the make or break for anything we looked at. In this case they were down the main hall in a utility closet which I would pass to go to ours apt. I wasn't crazy about the location but I was 'over-rided' this time as it was getting harder and harder. Thus I would think of them nearly every single time I passed by them. Always wondering how the people living nearer to them were doing. This was something then that was also being regularly reinforced. Been here now about 3 years - Couple months ago my partner went into the utility closet to look for something else and to my complete shock they were NOT there! NO evidence of them ever even being there! Nothing no holes no new wood nothing - my partner had only vague memories. Went to talk to the owners later. Nope hadn't been moved - always been downstairs by kitchen in the restaurant! Which made sense as to the problems I had started having sleeping in the bedroom which was yes over the kitchen part of the restaurant. The other was a picture of my cousin and pretty much the only picture I had ever taken of her. I had brought some pastries for dessert a usual thing and decided I really really needed (weirdly) to take a picture of her opening the box. This is not ever a normal thing I do... anyways she had a hot pink sweat shirt and a matching head band and her hair style included bangs. Totally cheesy outfit really hard to forget - she's in her mid 60's and not her typical more muted plain colours. I saw the pictures then and again a few times later - always getting a giggle at the DARN hot pink head band. Now the weirder part. I saw her again about 7-8 weeks later - noticed she didn't have bangs - huh? commented on how fast her bangs had grown out. She looked at me funny, not really understanding my comment but ignored it. Later at home I went back to look at the picture the date taken and to do the math. Hair grows at about 1/2 per month on average. Ok so I have a memory of her in the kitchen opening the box, me taking a picture, me seeing the picture, then and later, and reinforced in my brain hence the comment on how fast her hair had grown. Now I have a picture of her with no memory of taking, she is still opening the box, she still has the hot pink sweat shirt but her hair was as I saw it a 7-8 weeks later! The cousin in the picture now has long hair (no bangs) and no seriously super obvious hot pink head band! The image of that burnt in my brain, and the primary reason I took the picture in the first place is gone. I asked her about a hot pink head band - nope - no pink head band - had bought a set of 3 all various shades of brown/black... So ya I don't think anyone or thing is 'doing this to me' just think it was more of shift of frequencies. We do have a company building the D-wave locally so maybe it is when they reboot the machine. Sh!t happens. I have often joked that next I want to move into a time line where my partner is way less of a jerk.
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Post by Gabriella M on Nov 6, 2017 5:26:50 GMT -8
I believe for me, the Mandella effect/alternate universe (like The Man in the High Castle) has affected some of my RV outcomes. I try to set my intention before I begin viewing to the current timeline, and that seems to help.
Gabriella
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